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Eucrid
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Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:02 pm

I skipped my test there in August because I'd been off the road for a couple of months and knew I wasn't ready for the test.

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Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:11 pm

I failed mine because I knocked a wing mirror off.

When I was doing the reverse around the corner bit, I had checked out the place as I drove by, but by the time I started to reverse, so cunt had put out his wheelie bin and I panicked. Started navigating around it now problem, but forgot the mirror sticks out and it snapped off.

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Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:39 am

you'd wanna see the parallel parking I did this morning. id say i could have won some sort of award for it tbh
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Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:43 am

Eucrid wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:02 pm
I skipped my test there in August because I'd been off the road for a couple of months and knew I wasn't ready for the test.
I'd have considering doing this but it'd have made me procrastinate more and more

Plus, I needed to get a 1st attempt in before applying for my next (3rd) provisional, to avoid needing to do the theory test again

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Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:41 am

I passed my test first time, but I'm pretty sure the tester used the phrase "benefit of the doubt" at some point.

I kind of abandoned my reverse parking when the car wasn't exactly straight along the kerb but I'd fiddled about for what felt like 35 minutes mudging back and forward so I was never getting any closer

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Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:13 pm

On Late-Term Abortion, Liberals Are the Real Science Deniers

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... ny-science
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Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:51 pm

I'm not reading the fucking National Reviews opinion on abortion.

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Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:28 pm

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Good luck with that
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:24 am

Phierstarter wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:28 pm
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Good luck with that
So to take this divisive, cheer leading, american politics, point scoring rag at face value.

A Journal of Medicine reports that studies show that "infants" at 22 and 23 weeks of gestation have a decent chance of survival outside the womb.
So to challenge a 20 week abortion ban is akin to Science denial.

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Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:53 am

Eh, first of all, don't shoot shoot the messenger. That means both me, since linking something doesn't mean you endorse everything about it, and them, since they're comprised of lots of writers with differing agendas. Only the content matters.
Anyway the whole idea of sides here is reductionist and counter-productive, and i'm pretty sure choosing not to read their material plays right into their own stereotypes of liberals cherry-picking their information.

I don't understand your second point, can you rephrase in terms of how it relates to the article?

From what i got from it, they prefer the precautionary approach to choosing a limit based on ex utero chance of survival instead of the 24-week (brain cortex forming / increased risk to the mother) period, and are saying that the former limit is lowering as medical science progresses.

It's all largely a moot point anyway since the vast majority of abortions are performed within 12 weeks.
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:12 am

Super stuff from Buzzfeed here. Great read, although I can't help suspecting Milo thingy leaked his own emails.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstei ... ationalism

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Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:35 am

Phierstarter wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:53 am
Eh, first of all, don't shoot shoot the messenger. That means both me, since linking something doesn't mean you endorse everything about it, and them, since they're comprised of lots of writers with differing agendas. Only the content matters.
No the whole magazine has an agenda. They hire writers that suit their agenda and run the whole thing with an agenda. To think otherwise is extremely naive.
Phierstarter wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:53 am
Anyway the whole idea of sides here is reductionist and counter-productive,
Not its reality. The NR has a side, a very explicit side.
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:53 am
and i'm pretty sure choosing not to read their material plays right into their own stereotypes of liberals cherry-picking their information.
Anyone who thinks not reading the National Review is just cherry picking liberal sources is an idiot.

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Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:17 am

By side i meant Planned Parenthood vs whatever, but as you wish.
Every media publisher has a side, and personally if you linked me a Daily Stormer article dispelling the out of Africa theory i would still read it. If you see them as the enemy, then it's important to understand them.
Yet here we are, still talking about the messenger and not the message. A classic diversionary tactic by both sides btw.
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:22 am

Well I don't want to read what Daily Stormer thinks about immigration or the "great replacement" and I don't care about an article in the National Review calling pro-choice people science deniers. I can find better sources to read more nuanced and informative takes on the issues.

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Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:30 am

Go right ahead, but just because you agree with what you chose to read doesn't mean that they too don't have a "side" (i.e. opinion), just that you're less likely to see it.
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:12 pm

Phierstarter wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:30 am
Go right ahead, but just because you agree with what you chose to read doesn't mean that they too don't have a "side" (i.e. opinion), just that you're less likely to see it.
Your imagination is running wild, I haven't even mentioned another source and you are already criticising me for seeing them as unbiased. :lol:

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Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:56 pm

Fair enough. Well at least this didn't descend into the old school forum guilt by association tactics.
i.e. post something of dubious origin, get called a supporter of that content.
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:06 pm

on a lighter note, i got my 1st Boojum tshirt today

A proud day in the Martin household

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Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:09 pm

Your second name is Martin?
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:15 pm

ah, after lunch on a friday, the longest 3 hours of the week. come on now, lets get this over with so i can sit at home in front of a computer instead of sitting here in front of a computer.

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